Garmin vs Geocaching.com
The recent release of the Garmin Chirp certainly left me wondering what was happening between Garmin and Geocaching.com, but I hadn’t considered the following theory posted on the gps.org.nz forums:
It’s suggested that Garmin might be using the site opencaching.com (not currently active) as a platform to break away from geocaching.com. The proof that they own the domain is certainly there from the original German blog post:
I have it thanks to daytime sleep in night shift work noticed the first time and lo and behold, the site is down right now But according to Whois, the domain registered since September 2009 from Garmin.:
Domain Name: OPENCACHING.COM
Registrar: MARK MONITOR INC.
Whois Server: whois.markmonitor.com
Referral URL: http://www.markmonitor.com
Name Server: NS.GARMIN.COM
Name Server: NS2.GARMIN.COM
Updated Date: 13-sep-2010
Creation Date: 14-sep-2003
Expiration Date: 14-sep-2012
There is another brief entry that provides some insight into opencaching.com:
First of all Conclusion:
Looks nice, is not ready yet. Too bad.
‘m Curious to see how it goes.
Can I upload my myfinds where pq? Would in fact go to upload their own discoveries. I would rather not, for now.
6. Caches sort works:
One can also the difficulties in 0.1 increments filter.
Geiel. Then almost 3 doses are in any nice places, or only two? 🙂 #
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“Garmin will under take commercially reasonable efforts to publish, under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License, geocaching data submitted by you to the site
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My cache (Uploaded with a GPX file of a cache of my GC) appear to be further edited by me … # edit-geocache/OCMH2C/step1 – the site but not on the Internet Exploder, and Firefox displays correctly.
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I can sign in with my Garmin account and upload to the fast one of my geocaches GC.com via GPX can.
This is followed by a note: ”
Before we can publish the geocaches you have uploaded, we want you to review the information. Click on a cache, verify the information, add tags, and submit your geocaches to be found by other cachers.
However, the whole system does not seem to work here, I’m not getting unlocked my cache. The upload seems to have worked.
Password change was directly over Garmin.
The gps.org.nz post also points out that Garmin GPSr’s are no longer featured prominently on the geocaching.com site, despite Garmin having the largest number of reviews. Garmin making a play on the geocaching market would certainly explain their sudden realise of the chirp.
The whole concept of a significant player like Garmin taking on geocaching.com is a strange one to me and it will be interesting to see if they actually go through with it. Geocaching.com is such a significant player in the geocaching world, due to that fact that they – essentially – created the hobby. A Garmin caching site might take a small percentage market share but the likelihood is geocaching.com would create significant relationships with other GPS manufacturers and their would be a shift in GPSr favour as a result. I seriously think Garmin, probably motivated by greed, have shot themselves in the foot here. Rather than create a symbiotic relationship they’ve thrown their toys and vowed to take down the giant. … Okay, that might be assuming a little much.
This will be a very good test of consumer loyalty though. Given there are no major complaints (that I’m aware of) with Geocaching.com then there is little motivation for users to switch. It is, after all, the major league of geocaching and anything else is just the minors. I also think Garmin have underestimated the challenge presented by the burgeoning smart phone industry. More and more people are using their iPhones, androids and, my personal favourite, Blackberry’s to hunt caches therefore reducing the need for a dedicated GPSr. So rather than solidify their position they’ve jeopardized it. As the young kids say these days EPIC FAIL!
- Opencaching are watching… (itsnotaboutthenumbers.wordpress.com)
- Get In The Ring (itsnotaboutthenumbers.wordpress.com)
- Garmin Chirp: Genius or Criminal? (itsnotaboutthenumbers.wordpress.com)