Skip to content

Get In The Ring

November 16, 2010

In the red corner … is geocaching’s  heavyweight and everybody’s favourite, Groundspeak. And in the blue corner … brash contender Garmin, seeming out to topple the sporting veteran’s undefeated reign. There’s supposedly been bad blood between them since Groundspeak picked one of Garmin’s competitors to produce a cheap, family-friendly GPSr, the Geomate Junior. In round 2, Garmin struck back with the surprise release of its wireless geocaching device, the chirp. Groundspeak won round 3, relegating Garmin to the bottom of the table. Now in what may be the fight of the century, the GPSr manufacturer looks to be hitting back below the belt with its purchase of the domain.

So, before the next bell rings, we’re asking you the fans to predict the outcome.

More questions to answer below…





18 Comments leave one →
  1. November 17, 2010 8:07 am

    As a user and admin at (though, just speaking for myself), I’m not sure what to think. I like the idea of competition and think that currently, Groundspeak doesn’t have any real competition.

    The current confederation of OpenCaching sites are each independent, so it would be interesting if Garmin was interested in working with these sites to create a shared database and a stronger competitor to Groundspeak.

    Will have to wait and see.

    • November 17, 2010 9:23 pm

      It will certainly be interesting to see what they do.

      As one of the developers of an free-and-open geocaching site ( )I look forward to seeing what they dish up and how ‘open’ it really is. The concept of a large commercial company running an ‘open’ site is something I need to get my head around, I can see many conflicts with such an arrangement.

      Look, a heck of a lot of people use devices and software that handle more than one geocaching listing site, this is just potentially another alternative.

      Bring it on I say!

      • November 18, 2010 6:16 am

        I agree with your comment about a large commercial company having conflicts in the setting up of a ‘free’ and ‘open’ service. I’m not entirely sure that many, if any, companies have been able to achieve that before.

    • November 17, 2010 9:41 pm

      Free and Open Global Geocaching. That’s the motto of Geocaching Australia.

      While not a member of the Open Caching crew, Geocaching Australia has been supporting and promoting free and open geocaching since 2005 and I for one, welcome our new Garmin overlords.

      No hang on, not overlords, possible and potential partners in the new free and open geocaching world where membership is free, cache downloads via GPX files are free and there are no rules set by those driven by money who promote the game to line their own pockets.

      I say welcome to Garmin into the world of geocache listings and look forward the new world dawning.

  2. November 17, 2010 8:34 pm

    Hi folks (sorry for a little bit “bad” english 🙂 )

    I’m a member of the “Team” which provides the free services behind the free german plattform

    We are “not amused” about the choice of this already used name. is one of several national opencaching.XY, that have been started years(!) ago, several other national plattforms are prepared to start.

    Take a look at All of this plattforms are driven and supportet by volunteers in their rare spare time all over the world. And they are growing! From US to japan!

    In europe Garmin is the marketleader of GPS-devices. The Geocaching-market in germany is the biggest one after US.

    I’m shure, most of this people from the several opencaching-network-plattforms using GARMIN devices.

    And now, this big company is going to initiate a new plattform with the exactly (!) identical name “Opencaching”?!

    Whats their goal?

    a) Displace/Eleminate the free opencaching-network?

    b) Work together with the opencaching-network?

    c) …(?)

    reg. a) With a lot of (marketing/PR) money Garmin has the power to do that, shure!

    reg. b) No dialog has been iniiate by Garmin Ltd at this time!

    Discussions about the behavior of Garmin Ltd has been started in germany geocaching-scene (>google). Some say, they will not use Garmin-devices further, if Garmin “execute” the free opencaching-network.

    We, the Team of the german plattform are open for dialog with Garmin Ltd.

    Hey Garmin Ltd, what’s going on? Pick up your phone or drop us a line via mail!

    Garmin Germany can give you the phone-number.
    We already work together for better support of GPX-files from opencaching.XY in Garmin-devices.

    Member of Team (Germany)

    • November 18, 2010 6:13 am

      Thanks for the update and comments Jorg. Here’s hoping we all hear from Garmin/ soon!

  3. November 17, 2010 9:37 pm

    FYI: It’s Not About The Numbers has approached Garmin’s US and Australian offices for comment on this topic but has yet to hear back from either party.
    We’ll keep you posted …


  1. Garmin vs « It's Not About The Numbers
  2. Opencaching are watching… « It's Not About The Numbers
  3. Garmin – revenues are down; – a new logo is up « It's Not About The Numbers
  4. Garmin Chirp: Genius or Criminal? « It's Not About The Numbers
  5. Tick tick tick tick…boom? « It's Not About The Numbers
  6. Another cryptic slogan « It's Not About The Numbers
  7. Geolinkdump GPS, geocaching week 46
  8. changes again; Mysterious mascot introduced « It's Not About The Numbers
  9. Groundspeak: No comment « It's Not About The Numbers
  10. Get in the Ring, Round 2: New Poll « It's Not About The Numbers
  11. Get in the Ring, Round 2: New Poll » Its Not About The Numbers

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: